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		<title>By: A Bowl Of Stupid</title>
		<link>http://abowlofstupid.com/politics/bend-over-and-take-it-like-a-slut/comment-page-1/#comment-146789</link>
		<dc:creator>A Bowl Of Stupid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philly, 
I don&#039;t want to engage in a battle of who knows more about the internal workings of the industry because I&#039;m obviously not in a position to do so. My whole perception is based on media, journal, and legal cases/issues I&#039;ve read.

I would assume many more well informed independent commentaries will come out as the whole &#039;public option&#039; debate continues. Indeed, another sad take about the &#039;profit over benefit&#039; issue was just written by someone with much more information on the US healthcare industry than I -- Newsweek&#039;s Science Editor, Sharon Begley.

Here&#039;s a quote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot; Donald Stein, ... in the 1960s ... hypothesized that the pregnancy hormone progesterone might be the reason. But progesterone is not easily patentable. Nature already owns the patent, as it were, so industry took a pass.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And here&#039;s the link: http://www.newsweek.com/id/200599

Thanks for your input, as always, kiddo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philly,<br />
I don&#8217;t want to engage in a battle of who knows more about the internal workings of the industry because I&#8217;m obviously not in a position to do so. My whole perception is based on media, journal, and legal cases/issues I&#8217;ve read.</p>
<p>I would assume many more well informed independent commentaries will come out as the whole &#8216;public option&#8217; debate continues. Indeed, another sad take about the &#8216;profit over benefit&#8217; issue was just written by someone with much more information on the US healthcare industry than I &#8212; Newsweek&#8217;s Science Editor, Sharon Begley.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8221; Donald Stein, &#8230; in the 1960s &#8230; hypothesized that the pregnancy hormone progesterone might be the reason. But progesterone is not easily patentable. Nature already owns the patent, as it were, so industry took a pass.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And here&#8217;s the link: <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/200599" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/id/200599</a></p>
<p>Thanks for your input, as always, kiddo.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillygirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgan,

 Keep at them and know your policy coverage. Unfortunately the Health Care providers have not been brought under the same scrutiny as the pharma industry. They have free reign and are very inconsistent and unpredictable. My insurance is certainly not what it used to be. I am paying much more for less these days. Hopefully, the govt. starts regulating these practices too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgan,</p>
<p> Keep at them and know your policy coverage. Unfortunately the Health Care providers have not been brought under the same scrutiny as the pharma industry. They have free reign and are very inconsistent and unpredictable. My insurance is certainly not what it used to be. I am paying much more for less these days. Hopefully, the govt. starts regulating these practices too.</p>
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		<title>By: morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Healthcare insurance is indeed complete crap in the US.  I recently got a new job and selected my program based on the fact that my chiropractor was a member of their &quot;network&quot;.  I made all the phone calls and got complete assurance from the doctor AND the HMO that I was good to go to recieve treatment.

Flash forward one year I get a bill for the full sum of the prior years treatment.  It had been declined by my insurance, and I was billed in full.

I called my insurance company back and pretended I was again looking for a chiropractor, and asked if I could use THAT doctor.  They gave me the green light and assured me my coverage would be fully covered after my co-pay.  So I said, &quot;Well I have a bill from you for declining service from that doctor, how come?&quot;

Their response, &quot;Let me check again....oh, ok, we cover that doctor and we cover that facility but we don&#039;t cover THAT doctor at THAT facility.  So yeah you have to pay up.&quot;

This is the service you get from the healthcare plan for a multi-billion dollar fortune 100 company with hundreds of thousands of employees.  I can&#039;t imagine what some others go through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Healthcare insurance is indeed complete crap in the US.  I recently got a new job and selected my program based on the fact that my chiropractor was a member of their &#8220;network&#8221;.  I made all the phone calls and got complete assurance from the doctor AND the HMO that I was good to go to recieve treatment.</p>
<p>Flash forward one year I get a bill for the full sum of the prior years treatment.  It had been declined by my insurance, and I was billed in full.</p>
<p>I called my insurance company back and pretended I was again looking for a chiropractor, and asked if I could use THAT doctor.  They gave me the green light and assured me my coverage would be fully covered after my co-pay.  So I said, &#8220;Well I have a bill from you for declining service from that doctor, how come?&#8221;</p>
<p>Their response, &#8220;Let me check again&#8230;.oh, ok, we cover that doctor and we cover that facility but we don&#8217;t cover THAT doctor at THAT facility.  So yeah you have to pay up.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the service you get from the healthcare plan for a multi-billion dollar fortune 100 company with hundreds of thousands of employees.  I can&#8217;t imagine what some others go through.</p>
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		<title>By: Philly Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philly Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and BTW, when you work  a 60 hour week to ensure public safety because our quality standards have to be perfection that so called big salary is the same as what everyone else is getting per hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and BTW, when you work  a 60 hour week to ensure public safety because our quality standards have to be perfection that so called big salary is the same as what everyone else is getting per hour.</p>
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		<title>By: Philly Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philly Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For pennies on the dollar you can have yourself a generic treatment, which by law only needs to be 80% effective and is usually less than that. You get what you pay for. So the question is, Do you sorta wanna get bettter or really wanna get better? I guess that depends on how sick you are. As a person who has worked over 25 years in this industry and have worked for several of the largest companies, we had to get rid of our prize closets years ago, doctors can only recive up to a hundred dollar text book and we don&#039;t wine and dine them. A small modest lunch can be provided when providing training. I don&#039;t take family and friends on business trips spending the companies dime on fancy rooms and big dinners. And even though our company made a profit this year, none of us got bonuses or govt funding. This has been going on for the last 10 years at least. And this year the sunshine financial law was passed requiring us to report every penny we spend doing business, to the govt. Quite frankly, I&#039;d like to see all other industries be brought up to these standards. I can&#039;t say that every industry, including pharma, hasn&#039;t abused money and power. But it happens a lot less these days in the pharma incdustry because the govt. cracked down on us years ago. And I&#039;d be very careful about wishing for socialized medicine. Just stand in line at a clinic and wait for substandard care. Did you know that all of these big bad pharma companies companies spend billions of dollars a year to provide free drugs to those with no incomes. What financial institute or car manufacturer does that. Yes I&#039;d like everyone to access to healthcare, but I didn&#039;t spend my summers in a classroom to finish undergrad and grad school to stand in line at a clinic. I worked very hard so that I don&#039;t have to sit in the back of the bus. Next time check out your facts and just don&#039;t go with what the media told you and everyone else when you bark at big bad pharma because you may be a recipient of one of those free drugs in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For pennies on the dollar you can have yourself a generic treatment, which by law only needs to be 80% effective and is usually less than that. You get what you pay for. So the question is, Do you sorta wanna get bettter or really wanna get better? I guess that depends on how sick you are. As a person who has worked over 25 years in this industry and have worked for several of the largest companies, we had to get rid of our prize closets years ago, doctors can only recive up to a hundred dollar text book and we don&#8217;t wine and dine them. A small modest lunch can be provided when providing training. I don&#8217;t take family and friends on business trips spending the companies dime on fancy rooms and big dinners. And even though our company made a profit this year, none of us got bonuses or govt funding. This has been going on for the last 10 years at least. And this year the sunshine financial law was passed requiring us to report every penny we spend doing business, to the govt. Quite frankly, I&#8217;d like to see all other industries be brought up to these standards. I can&#8217;t say that every industry, including pharma, hasn&#8217;t abused money and power. But it happens a lot less these days in the pharma incdustry because the govt. cracked down on us years ago. And I&#8217;d be very careful about wishing for socialized medicine. Just stand in line at a clinic and wait for substandard care. Did you know that all of these big bad pharma companies companies spend billions of dollars a year to provide free drugs to those with no incomes. What financial institute or car manufacturer does that. Yes I&#8217;d like everyone to access to healthcare, but I didn&#8217;t spend my summers in a classroom to finish undergrad and grad school to stand in line at a clinic. I worked very hard so that I don&#8217;t have to sit in the back of the bus. Next time check out your facts and just don&#8217;t go with what the media told you and everyone else when you bark at big bad pharma because you may be a recipient of one of those free drugs in the near future.</p>
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